All bows except greatbows should have had the light bow moveset. pulling the bow should have been a cancelable move in any stage of the animation. Aiming with the sight should have automatically have drawn the bowstring making that draw sound so that you could fire it immediately.

The sight in itself is a mess, and should have hade lower sensitivity. I could go on forever about bows in Elden ring and how they dropped the ball They should have made it possible to add affinities They should have made dexterity increase attack speed as with spell casting.

barrage should always have been possible with any bow by just clicking the fire button faster, but the range and damage should have been affected. All normal firing should have been charged attacks meaning you can choose yourself how far you want to pull back the string to affect range and damage.

meaning that you can barrage quickly if you want, or you can make every fully charged if you want. I wish i knew how to make mods. Bow builds are perfectly viable in PvP, "holds up any shield" there not. Using bows in my second playthrough makes this feel like a completely different game.

The bows make the strategizing feel better. Their power does not lie in being a main weapon, which you kill everything. Oh, and.. Elden ring is just not intended for bow builds, it's awkward to use and you'll get outperformed by pretty much anything else. If you want to make a ranged build just make a mage and don't torture yourself.

No thanks I'm sticking with full bows, light bows though are much better for general combat. Bows are not a main weapon, they're a tool.

Use it to soften up a target or clear out weak mobs from a distance and you can trivialize a lot of encounters. Try and fight every enemy with a bow alone and you'll just be miserable.

Even casters can't kill everything between graces with spells alone, that's why you carry a sharp piece of metal that doesn't run out of ammo.

wierd thing ive noticed, and this isnt just for arrows, but if you switch directions at the the right time you can ignore damage and status buildup from arrows and some spells like swift glintstone shard entirely. For me, bow only run allow you to truthly experience Elden Ring in RPG kinda gameplay when you have to buy books, farm items for crafing arrows and a thirst of runes early game.

Until mid game to gain access to variety of arrows and easy farm spot and stock, then late game when you just vaporate bosses with rain of arrows and barrage. Wrap up any build is fun if you know how to play then judt simple mind call it bad because uou hqve no knowlegde about the build.

This weapon class is not really viable. Poor scaling, slow-motion arrows that many enemies effortlessly dodge and many hyper aggressive enemies or enemies with shields that rush you down. Only good for pulling enemies out of groups ro rune farming.

Fromsoft mseems to really hate this weapon class. I miss when you could infuse these with elemental damage DS2 and have them on dedicated faith or Int builds.

They were super useful that way I have no idea why Fromsoft took that from us. if I see a light rolling bow user, im busting out the halberd. not in the mood getting roll-shot or jump-shot times in a row.

Step 1: Start a bow build, getting some upgrades on black bow, nice and chill. Step 2: you regret coz you don't deal too much dmg and your scaling sucks Step 3: get Loretta's Magic bow Step 4: Respec to become mage once again Lmao. Medium bows need more love from devs.

Light bows are reliable in PVP as how fast they can shoot while Greatbows are good for hard hitting, but medium bows aren't just good at anything as they aren't fast except Black Bow , can't do a fast draw technique like Greatbows, and their damage is a middle between light and great bows.

the efficacy of bow builds basically hinged on how insanely broken lightroll was combined with the jump shots and rolling shots, now that light roll is fair, bow builds need to play it much safer to not just get run down by thrust attacks.

I'm really hoping Fromsoft has 1 or 2 unique bows in the upcoming DLC :' maybe one that uses fp to shoot magical arrows or something. Does anyone even use a bow seriously? I only see them used for boss cheeses or rune farming. Imagine this being your favorite weapon class in these games.

Couldn't be me. everyone talks about how annoying bows are to fight, since theyre so fast with low recovery time, forgetting that the swift glintstone shard for sorcerers is faster, more annoying, better damaging, and has tracking.

an entire weapon class is worse than a single spell. not to say that they should become a better glintstone shard, i hate glintstone shard. so yes, drastically buff their damage scaling, but nerf the recovery speed alongside it.

and nerf glintstone shard while youre at it. im just saying, longbow arrows should move as fast as the radahn arrows for greatbows. fromsoft all i want is for you to buff the scaling on these things, its one small change to make these viable and thats it.

I am just guessing here, but i think if bows were given the chance to be buffed or have better scaling it would make them too powerful and annoying as enemy snipers are in almost every aspect of combat they are good, except damage and resource usage.

they are fast, with low recovery, safe, imbued with any status your arrow has, FS already removed the silly super close targeting restriction of previous souls games. Same reason sorcery has low tier homing ability I mean, China made the great wall to keep a much smaller army of expert archers from invading.

Yeah adding to the last comment, why are like half the bows in the game not listed? Why is the Composite Bow not listed here? For the aspiring archer, use your quiver like so: Use one slot for your damage dealing arrows, pretty self explanatory.

Your other slot is where it can get interesting. Swap the arrows in this slot for whatever the situation calls for. Need to distract something so you can sneak by?

Put some shattershard arrows in your quiver. Want to deal some DOT? Want to leave a marker somewhere, mark an invisible enemy, or map out an invisible path?

Use some rainbow stone arrows! That second slot can give you alot of utility if you make good use of it, makes being an archer quite a bit of fun actually. Bows are a more of a tool than a weapon. Use them to pick off or soften up mobs from range before finishing them with melee and they're extremely effective.

They never have been and never will be primary weapons capable of taking on the thousands of mobs you'll encounter on their own; there's a good reason "bow-only" is a challenge run and not a common build. However, because so much of the challenge in these games is from getting swarmed, being able to pull one enemy from a group or delete an enemy sniper can turn a challenging fight into a complete cakewalk.

Fire arrows can ignite explosive barrels, rainbow arrows can mark invisible enemies or paths, shattershard arrows can cause mobs to bunch up if they haven't noticed you, the list goes on.

Use your head to divide and conquer and bows will be a vital tool in your kit. buff the scaling, but nerf the recovery speed of the short bow jump shots. make it better and more fun to play against. everyone wins. why do fromsoft hate bows so much in elden ring. ffs from I know using bows can be seen cowardly and you're less likely to die since you have range but you cant use that reason with how op sorceries are in this game.

buff bows in 1. Starting my bow build I used to believe bows didn't need a scaling buff because they'd be OP as offhand tools.

I'm now at the end of my bow build believing the only thing holding these back from being a new fan favorite is scaling. Regaurdless of build Anyone know of an interesting weapon combo for these? Like Longbow and Katana or something similar?

whenever i complain about how bad longbows are people just tell me to use a greatbow and thats kind of the whole problem isnt it. looking into it, some DS3 bows actually had rather good scaling, so why's that not the case now?

I wanted to ask for some thoughts on a feeling I have; quick context, I have only played DS2 SOTFS before Elden Ring as I had a bad laptop Did they make the lead calculation of the locked-on aim considerably worse?

In DS2, I could easily hit running targets and it would miss only and understandably when the target changed speed or direction when the arrow is mid-air.

In Elden Ring, I regularly miss by seemingly 30cm when the target is perpendicularly aligned with me and just casually walking. I assumed they did that to make the enchanted shot AoW viable. But I still think its a bit annoying. fromsoft always makes an effort to make bows more viable with each game, but always give us the finger on the scaling.

The golem bow has good scaling making it the best bow in the game, but not even nearly to the point where its overpowered Imagine Fromsoft bows are as good as Dragons Dogma probably never going to happen because of "muh realism". What tf is with From and being so stingy on non-magic ranged builds?

You bring crafting to the table, and then decide to make bows practically useless? Some might find this interesting and mildly useful. If you use manual aim to target an enemy far outside the bow's range the arrows wont do any damage when they hit, you'll see it clearly with fire arrows.

Serpent arrows and maybe poisonbone, bleed or rot arrows will still proc their status effects though, but it seems to be at a reduced rate so I don't understand the reason why or how they would proc at all. I first noticed this with the dragonkin soldier at the lake of rot, I didn't once consider fighting that thing ankle deep in rot water but I wanted the sword it drops.

I had both arrow's sting and reach talismans equipped and I used the black bow with serpent arrows. You have to make your way from pressure plate to pressure plate sprinting through the lake of rot dressed as a mushroom, past the basilisks that will try to have their way with you all while trying to not let the status bar fill with scarlet rot.

But as you get closer to the grand cloister you can just make out where the dragon soldier is from some of the small stone platforms you raise out of the lake. The idea is to fight it from these platforms and good luck to you if your plan is trying to kill it as intended. The trick is to find the furthest platform where you can still see and hit the boss with your bow, you'll know you have the right spot and found your range when you see it flinch when each serpent arrow hits, once you land enough hits the poison procs and you'll see the boss's health bar at the bottom of the screen that's the time to sprint straight for the rock outcrop you use to jump out of the lake and get to the entrance of the grand cloister and the dragonkin will follow you to that outcrop but at its highest point it wont be able to get anywhere near you while you shoot it full of arrows.

It will start walking away now and again but comes right back when the next arrow hits, thankfully it doesn't do that thing some bosses will, vanishing back to its original spot when it gets too far from its station making it an easy kill.

I tried the same thing on one of the biggest envoys just before the second grace at the top of the Haligtree like the dragonkin soldier it was out of the pulley bow's range but with both sting and reach talismans I thought serpent arrows would work the same way on this enemy, they didn't and it's how I know arrows that proc status do so at a reduced rate if shot from too far outside the bow's effective range.

I went through all 99 serpent arrows and 37 poisonbone arrows to kill it. These envoys don't have a silly resistance to both poison types either. After I got to and rested at the second grace I was curious, this time I used a shortbow with the rain of arrows AoW again with both reach and sting talismans and much closer to the envoy.

Two clusters of serpent arrows from the AoW were enough to quickly kill it, I'd be interested if anyone knows why status arrows proc in the first place when it's at this much reduced rate and total effect.

If you are getting ready to shoot but maybe choose the wrong arrow is there any way to cancel the shot without cycling through all three weapon slots and back to the bow? without the smart-arse option of equipping three bows.

So if you fail to meet the strength requirement while one-handing it, you need to be two-handing it when you summon torrent, not when you equip it while riding torrent.

Honestly i think the main reason people dont use bows isnt always the low damage, but just the fact that the moveset is really boring, especially on longbows. They dont have any kind of real heavy attack or anything. Personally I think something that could make longbows more interesting is a charge attack related to how long you keep the arrow nocked.

here for fromsoft's daily reminder to buff the scaling on bows already ffs. Ideas: Longbow class should be allowed Through and Through. Shortbow class should be allowed Quickstep. Black Bow should be allowed to change AoW. Greatbows should be allowed AoW related to blocking, and should be allowed some pretty decent blocking.

All bows should have a melee attack. please god fromsoft improve the scaling, the highest it ever goes is D for any bow and thats just really, really stupid.

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Last edited by RonC7; at AM. OK, let's start over. You say in post 1 that you have a I have a 14 and MY Owner's manual does NOT look like the manual you displayed in post 5. Having 2 FOBs present to add 3 is for a 17 or newer, so you might not want to use those instructions.

So, what year is your car AND how many FOBs do you have and what are you trying to do? OK, you have 1 working FOB and want to add the 2nd FOB as 2. So, you need to do the LONG program. The working FOB must NOT be in the area of the car. Place the FOB body far away from the car and use only the key to start the process.

Keep both FOBs away from the car until the car asks for FOB 1. If the car senses your working FOB in this process, it will ask to program FOB 3 and you do not want three, you want FOB 2. You want to do the program that is for No working FOBs. And for the love of God, please use the instructions in the link I gave you.

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